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This is beyond disgusting.....
That man killed Black people in their Church and opening admits that it was a hate crime, so what does the State of South Carolina do? They continue to fly the Confederate Flag outside the State legislature and NOT lowering it to half staff. ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Confederate flag, despite massacre, still flies high

By Robert Macpherson

http://news.yahoo.com/confederate-flag-despite-massacre-still-flies-high-070630232.html

Date: 2015-06-19 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Sounds about right.

Why do I remain totally unsurprised at this mentality? :o(

Date: 2015-06-19 02:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
It makes me sick their obcession with the Civil War. ARGH...
It would be just like if Germans ran around with the Swastika flying over their government buildings. UGH.......

Date: 2015-06-19 02:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
The difference being that in Germany, that would be a criminal offence!

Date: 2015-06-19 02:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
I some times wish that was the case here. :(

Date: 2015-06-19 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
We can't even control guns letalone flags. UGH.......

Date: 2015-06-19 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Something needs to give on gun control with you guys!

Date: 2015-06-19 02:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
I sure wish it would. ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Date: 2015-06-19 01:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] matrixmann
Anytime this kind of identification is still going to lead to conflict again...

Date: 2015-06-19 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ericadawn16.livejournal.com

Last night, the clip showed that the US flag and the Confederate flag on different poles and even though the US flag was half staff, it was still above the Confederate flag. The only requirement for flags is that the US flag must be the highest flag when on US property.

Date: 2015-06-19 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antephialtic.livejournal.com
And the sad thing is this sort of thing keeps on going on all the damn time.

Date: 2015-06-19 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
That is so sadly true. :(

Date: 2015-06-19 03:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antephialtic.livejournal.com
I'm pissed every time a news article flies by and tells us that another black person has died to the police's racial targeting.

Date: 2015-06-19 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
And the cops never get convicted of any of them. :o

Date: 2015-06-19 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
I was reading about that on the train back from Rochester last night (London Evening Standard) , and i could not believe it. How disgusting and how sad for all those lives lost. Such hate crimes are so appalling. It defies all logic. I am quite abhorred by it all.

Date: 2015-06-19 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
There is sadly so little logic in this country. :(

Date: 2015-06-19 05:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seaivy.livejournal.com
the dedication to the Confederate battle flag is distressing
At least state governments should not continue the allegiance

i understand people wanting to remember their ancestors who died in that horrendous war
but the terrible truth is that Bull Connor and the fire hoses was not that long ago

and the "heritage" is being passed on
the killer is only 21

give MSNBC credit - they are refusing to show his face

Date: 2015-06-20 03:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallconsmate.livejournal.com
my family fought in the civil war. there is an antecedent of mine listed on the memorial at the battle of cowpens. i am proud of who i am and where i came from...

but at the same time, i know there were terrible atrocities. i know that there is a black family in maryland who is related to us, and has the paper that acknowledges his family as being "from the body of" the slaveowner. that's also a part of my family history, and i claim it. we were never perfect, we did things that were not right.

i feel about those antecedents as i do about the ones who fought in the american revolution...they fought for what they thought was right, even though it was NOT about slavery, it was about wanting to not be told what to do by the northern government. i can see *that* part of it, but not the ownership of other human beings. (we were not slave owners by that time.) i cannot change the past, but i can claim what part of it is mine. am i a confederate flag waver?

no, but i could be in both Daughters of the American Revolution and Daughters of the Confederacy if i wanted. my grandparents are buried in "the confederate cemetary" in our home town. being proud of being a Southerner, a Texan, is a very boggy field. i have to be able to accept the bad parts as well as the good. (and no, there is only confederate battle songs from both north and south on my computer, nothing else "southern confederate" in my home.)

long ways around to say "after living in south carolina, and KNOWING that church, i am saddened by this act of home-grown terrorism and it is one more reason to get the confederate flag OFF the statehouse, as the argument to do so has been raging there for decades now."

Date: 2015-06-20 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
WOW, what a rich heritage.

Date: 2015-06-20 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fallconsmate.livejournal.com
it really is. hearing all the stories connected to the genealogy that my father has put up at ancestry (that i cannot fsking access because my aunt is a CUNT and locked the entries so she can control who sees it...idiot.) has been fascinating.

we had a man walk into the city hall in the place where my grandmother lived, asking if anyone knew where (my grandmother) could be found...she happened to BE there that day working with a committee on something. he was like a 3rd cousin of hers, and had taken vacation...

so that he could look up major family members (as a mother of 7 children, she counted as major), talk to them, find their family tree AND SHARE the family tree that he was carrying with him which traced the family back to pre-American Revolution days. my dad took *that* info, then at one of the family reunions taped the WHOLE thing on a wall, and had everyone put THEIR info up there. he's the one who did all this work, then my aunt pulled that stunt and since she's ALWAYS been a controlling bitch, no one was shocked. *eyeroll*

but it's comforting to me to know who i am and where i came from.

Date: 2015-06-21 03:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
WOW, I wish we had that much information about the family. :)

Date: 2015-06-20 07:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
and the "heritage" is being passed on
the killer is only 21

I think that is the scary part.
21 years old and he has so much hatred/bigotry in him that he wants to start a civil war? OMg.....

Date: 2015-06-22 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ellierachael.livejournal.com
This whole story is so disturbing :(

Date: 2015-06-23 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thespian15.livejournal.com
So true. :(
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